Comments for Oomai http://oomai.wordpress.com OOMAI in Tamil means those who can not speak, so they blog! Actually this is the voice of/for the oppressed Indians. Sat, 30 Dec 2006 02:29:12 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 Comment on Caste Atrocities: Struggle to wear blouses, in the last century in south! by none http://oomai.wordpress.com/2006/05/21/caste-atricities-struggle-to-wear-blouses-in-the-last-century-in-south/#comment-156 none Sat, 30 Dec 2006 02:29:12 +0000 https://oomai.wordpress.com/2006/05/21/caste-atricities-struggle-to-wear-blouses-in-the-last-century-in-south/#comment-156 Among the various communities of South India, the Nadars have perhaps clearly evidenced the impact of change over the past 200 years. Considered by high-caste Hindus in the early nineteenth century to be of extremely low status, the Nadars – toddy-tappers, climbers of the palmyra palm – suffered severe social disabilities and were among the most depressed communities in the Tamil country. When history dawned on the Nadars, traditionally known as Shanars, they were found principally in the two southern districts of Tirunelveli and Kanyakumari. Palmyra climbing and toddy tapping were their traditional occupations. The entire family was engaged in producing different palm products such as fermented juice, jaggery, baskets, mats, cots, and roof beams. Trade in a small way supplemented their livelihood. Local caste associations (sangams) grew out of this channel of commerce. A tiny fraction of the caste, known as Nadans, were wealthy landowners. In the Hindu caste hierarchy the Nadars ranked very low because of their association with alcohol. The Nadars have had a turbulent and colourful history. Nadar community struggle to rise above their depressed economic and social condition through raise in mercantilism activities through formation of sangams, claiming of Hindu Kshathriya status with the objective for rights in Hindu temples, few members taking up to Christian base; assumed dramatic forms in a series of escalating confrontations between the caste and its antagonists. Hostility to the efforts of Nadars to establish a new status resulted in a series of violent outbursts culminating in the riots of 1899 known as the Sivakasi Riots. Their old name of ‘Shanar’ was abandoned and the honorific title ‘Nadar’ was adopted. The Justice Party government adopted the term in all public records from 1921. Because of their sensitive response to social and economic change over the past century and a half, the Nadars have today become one of the most successful groups in the South, in both economic and political terms, and command considerable respect. From among their numbers have come leaders in business, industry and other professions; With foresight, the Nadar community elite controlled management of local temple festivals and established a network of institutions such as schools, colleges and hostels. From the breast-cloth controversy through the sack of Sivakasi to the Nadar Mahajan Sangam, the Nadars’ rise, exemplifying the processes of mobilization in Indian society, provides rich material for an analysis of the social life of a community in change. Among the various communities of South India, the Nadars have perhaps clearly evidenced the impact of change over the past 200 years. Considered by high-caste Hindus in the early nineteenth century to be of extremely low status, the Nadars – toddy-tappers, climbers of the palmyra palm – suffered severe social disabilities and were among the most depressed communities in the Tamil country.

When history dawned on the Nadars, traditionally known as Shanars, they were found principally in the two southern districts of Tirunelveli and Kanyakumari. Palmyra climbing and toddy tapping were their traditional occupations. The entire family was engaged in producing different palm products such as fermented juice, jaggery, baskets, mats, cots, and roof beams.

Trade in a small way supplemented their livelihood. Local caste associations (sangams) grew out of this channel of commerce. A tiny fraction of the caste, known as Nadans, were wealthy landowners. In the Hindu caste hierarchy the Nadars ranked very low because of their association with alcohol.

The Nadars have had a turbulent and colourful history. Nadar community struggle to rise above their depressed economic and social condition through raise in mercantilism activities through formation of sangams, claiming of Hindu Kshathriya status with the objective for rights in Hindu temples, few members taking up to Christian base; assumed dramatic forms in a series of escalating confrontations between the caste and its antagonists.

Hostility to the efforts of Nadars to establish a new status resulted in a series of violent outbursts culminating in the riots of 1899 known as the Sivakasi Riots. Their old name of ‘Shanar’ was abandoned and the honorific title ‘Nadar’ was adopted. The Justice Party government adopted the term in all public records from 1921.

Because of their sensitive response to social and economic change over the past century and a half, the Nadars have today become one of the most successful groups in the South, in both economic and political terms, and command considerable respect. From among their numbers have come leaders in business, industry and other professions; With foresight, the Nadar community elite controlled management of local temple festivals and established a network of institutions such as schools, colleges and hostels.
From the breast-cloth controversy through the sack of Sivakasi to the Nadar Mahajan Sangam, the Nadars’ rise, exemplifying the processes of mobilization in Indian society, provides rich material for an analysis of the social life of a community in change.

]]> Comment on Caste Atrocities: Struggle to wear blouses, in the last century in south! by none http://oomai.wordpress.com/2006/05/21/caste-atricities-struggle-to-wear-blouses-in-the-last-century-in-south/#comment-155 none Sat, 30 Dec 2006 02:28:37 +0000 https://oomai.wordpress.com/2006/05/21/caste-atricities-struggle-to-wear-blouses-in-the-last-century-in-south/#comment-155 Nadar community struggle to rise above their depressed economic and social condition were through raise in mercantilism activities through formation of sangams, claiming of Hindu Kshathriya status with the objective for rights in Hindu temples, few members taking up to Christian base; The Nadar Mahajan Sangam and Dakshinamara Nadar Sangam, exemplified further the processes of mobilization for peaceful and respectful higher status of the community Nadar community struggle to rise above their depressed economic and social condition were through raise in mercantilism activities through formation of sangams, claiming of Hindu Kshathriya status with the objective for rights in Hindu temples, few members taking up to Christian base; The Nadar Mahajan Sangam and Dakshinamara Nadar Sangam, exemplified further the processes of mobilization for peaceful and respectful higher status of the community

]]> Comment on Shame on IITS and AIIMS management & anti activists by வெறியன் http://oomai.wordpress.com/2006/05/28/shame-on-iits-and-aiims-management-anti-activists/#comment-150 வெறியன் Thu, 07 Dec 2006 08:07:42 +0000 https://oomai.wordpress.com/2006/05/28/shame-on-iits-and-aiims-management-anti-activists/#comment-150 Sir I wish to bring to your attention that many backward castes, most backward caste listed in Tamil Nadu's reserved caste category speak language other than Tamil. The list is seen Tamil Nadu website http://www.tn.gov.in/bcmbcmw/bclist.htm These includes countless communities where Telugu is spoken at home, also several Kannada speaking caste and Urdu Muslim communities who essentially speak Hindi. The chairman of Tamil Nadu's minority commision is Pyarelal Jain appointed by Karunanidhi, a Hindi-speaking Jain. Tamil Brahmins despite being the "biggest scoundrels" according to Karunanidhi are still Tamils. How is that Karunanidhi is reaching out even to North Indians for votes by printing Hindi pamphlets in last election. Why is DMK hating Tamil Brahmins but at the sametime reaching out for North Indians residing in TN. Many CBSE schools in Tamil Nadu continue to impose Hindi (as compulsory subject), while Tamil can be conveniently skipped. This is sharp contrast to Karnataka where all schools including CBSE school which dont teach Kannada as compulsory subject will be de-recognized. Karunanidhi has come to power the 4th time now. Still the Hindi impositition in CBSE flourishes. Why are Tamil Nadu's ports of entry i.e airports and ports staffed by people who speak Hindi and dont know Tamil? Why has Karunidhi failed on his promise to have mandatory Tamil annoucements on all Tamil Nadu flights. Recently there was court case against use of Tamil as official language in TN and also opposition. Many people who oppose this are also covered under Tamil Nadu reservation. Why are evils such as 2-tumbler system and seperate well system so prevelent in Southern TN where there is virtually no 'scoundrel' Brahmins left. It seems that amoung BC caste there is lot of descrimination and Dalits are still suffering while the bloody TN govt, Karunidhi etc are wantonly ignoring and supporting this. It all looks like that the reservation policy is the most convenient means by "Tamil" politicians to destroy Tamil, Tamil society for their personal gains. Tamil patriots would have done something great if they had reservation for one Tamil caste in TN rather than commercial certificates which many non-Tamil speaker can purchase. Sir

I wish to bring to your attention that many backward castes, most backward caste listed in Tamil Nadu’s reserved caste category speak language other than Tamil. The list is seen Tamil Nadu website http://www.tn.gov.in/bcmbcmw/bclist.htm

These includes countless communities where Telugu is spoken at home, also several Kannada speaking caste and Urdu Muslim communities who essentially speak Hindi.

The chairman of Tamil Nadu’s minority commision is Pyarelal Jain appointed by Karunanidhi, a Hindi-speaking Jain.

Tamil Brahmins despite being the “biggest scoundrels” according to Karunanidhi are still Tamils. How is that Karunanidhi is reaching out even to North Indians for votes by printing Hindi pamphlets in last election. Why is DMK hating Tamil Brahmins but at the sametime reaching out for North Indians residing in TN.

Many CBSE schools in Tamil Nadu continue to impose Hindi (as compulsory subject), while Tamil can be conveniently skipped. This is sharp contrast to Karnataka where all schools including CBSE school which dont teach Kannada as compulsory subject will be de-recognized. Karunanidhi has come to power the 4th time now. Still the Hindi impositition in CBSE flourishes.

Why are Tamil Nadu’s ports of entry i.e airports and ports staffed by people who speak Hindi and dont know Tamil?

Why has Karunidhi failed on his promise to have mandatory Tamil annoucements on all Tamil Nadu flights.

Recently there was court case against use of Tamil as official language in TN and also opposition. Many people who oppose this are also covered under Tamil Nadu reservation.

Why are evils such as 2-tumbler system and seperate well system so prevelent in Southern TN where there is virtually no ’scoundrel’ Brahmins left. It seems that amoung BC caste there is lot of descrimination and Dalits are still suffering while the bloody TN govt, Karunidhi etc are wantonly ignoring and supporting this.

It all looks like that the reservation policy is the most convenient means by “Tamil” politicians to destroy Tamil, Tamil society for their personal gains.

Tamil patriots would have done something great if they had reservation for one Tamil caste in TN rather than commercial certificates which many non-Tamil speaker can purchase.

]]> Comment on Shame on IITS and AIIMS management & anti activists by வெறியன் http://oomai.wordpress.com/2006/05/28/shame-on-iits-and-aiims-management-anti-activists/#comment-148 வெறியன் Thu, 07 Dec 2006 08:03:30 +0000 https://oomai.wordpress.com/2006/05/28/shame-on-iits-and-aiims-management-anti-activists/#comment-148 இந்தி பேசும் 'தமிழர்கள்' Urdu Labbais including Rowthar and Marakayar Sourashtra Urdu Sheik Urdu Syed தெலுங்கு பேசும் 'தமிழர்கள்' Reddy ( Ganjam) Telugu Chetty 24-manai Chetty Telugu Idaiyar Yerukula Kalavathila Boyas Pedda Poyas Telugupatty Chetty கன்னடம் பேசும் 'தமிழர்கள்' Hegde Gounder தமிழ் பேசும் 'அன்னியர்கள' (FCs) (ஏழை) Mudaliars (காசு கொடுத்து OBCஆக மாறலாம்) (ஏழை) Naatukottai Chettiar (காசு கொடுத்து OBCஆக மாறலாம்) Brahmins இந்தி பேசும் ‘தமிழர்கள்’
Urdu Labbais including Rowthar and Marakayar Sourashtra
Urdu Sheik
Urdu Syed

தெலுங்கு பேசும் ‘தமிழர்கள்’
Reddy ( Ganjam)
Telugu Chetty
24-manai Chetty
Telugu Idaiyar
Yerukula
Kalavathila Boyas
Pedda Poyas
Telugupatty Chetty

கன்னடம் பேசும் ‘தமிழர்கள்’
Hegde
Gounder

தமிழ் பேசும் ‘அன்னியர்கள’ (FCs)
(ஏழை) Mudaliars (காசு கொடுத்து OBCஆக மாறலாம்)
(ஏழை) Naatukottai Chettiar (காசு கொடுத்து OBCஆக மாறலாம்)
Brahmins

]]> Comment on Shame on IITS and AIIMS management & anti activists by வெறியன் http://oomai.wordpress.com/2006/05/28/shame-on-iits-and-aiims-management-anti-activists/#comment-147 வெறியன் Thu, 07 Dec 2006 08:01:23 +0000 https://oomai.wordpress.com/2006/05/28/shame-on-iits-and-aiims-management-anti-activists/#comment-147 How can one convert from Forward Caste to Backward Caste. I have been condemned by God and unfortunately born Forward Caste Brahmin . Is it possible to convert to Backward Caste. I have heard forward caste non-Brahmins can purchase certificates. It will helpful these agencies are mentioned which convert me from Brahmin caste to Backward caste. How can one convert from Forward Caste to Backward Caste. I have been condemned by God and unfortunately born Forward Caste Brahmin . Is it possible to convert to Backward Caste. I have heard forward caste non-Brahmins can purchase certificates. It will helpful these agencies are mentioned which convert me from Brahmin caste to Backward caste.

]]> Comment on Dalits & BCs suffer under Brahminical dictatorship in IIT – Madras by cd http://oomai.wordpress.com/2006/05/18/dalits-bcs-suffer-under-brahminical-dictatorship-in-iit-madras/#comment-145 cd Tue, 05 Dec 2006 12:49:55 +0000 https://oomai.wordpress.com/2006/05/18/dalits-bcs-suffer-under-brahminical-dictatorship-in-iit-madras/#comment-145 From what I read in biology there are humans ( Homo sapiens ). There are no sub-species underneath. Genetically its all the same. In other terms there is just one class with same rights. Stop calling yourself and may be others inferior , backward and blame others for it. Look forward to your future and make the best out of it CD From what I read in biology there are humans ( Homo sapiens ). There are no sub-species underneath. Genetically its all the same. In other terms there is just one class with same rights. Stop calling yourself and may be others inferior , backward and blame others for it.

Look forward to your future and make the best out of it

CD

]]> Comment on Caste Based Apartheid In The Indian Institute Of Technology, Madras, by luke http://oomai.wordpress.com/2006/05/20/caste-based-apartheid-in-the-indian-institute-of-technology-madras/#comment-69 luke Sat, 07 Oct 2006 15:36:07 +0000 https://oomai.wordpress.com/2006/05/20/caste-based-apartheid-in-the-indian-institute-of-technology-madras/#comment-69 he created bull sheat 5th caste, he must know that tribes like gonds have ruled till late 18th century in central india. he created bull sheat 5th caste, he must know that tribes like gonds have ruled till late 18th century in central india.

]]> Comment on Caste Based Apartheid In The Indian Institute Of Technology, Madras, by Kangeyan http://oomai.wordpress.com/2006/05/20/caste-based-apartheid-in-the-indian-institute-of-technology-madras/#comment-68 Kangeyan Fri, 06 Oct 2006 19:05:45 +0000 https://oomai.wordpress.com/2006/05/20/caste-based-apartheid-in-the-indian-institute-of-technology-madras/#comment-68 The guys who are supporting the things happening in IIT chennai haven't used any proper words to express their feelings. That means those upper community Brahmins(no way upper in their thinkings) looks no difference than a Brithish who was here. Even both are whites so you guys don't know to think white. Once more Periyar will come soon to control you guys. The social revolutions will not stop. You guys has to struggle hard once the 97% peoples are together. Please keep in mind that. The guys who are supporting the things happening in IIT chennai haven’t used any proper words to express their feelings. That means those upper community Brahmins(no way upper in their thinkings) looks no difference than a Brithish who was here. Even both are whites so you guys don’t know to think white.

Once more Periyar will come soon to control you guys. The social revolutions will not stop. You guys has to struggle hard once the 97% peoples are together. Please keep in mind that.

]]> Comment on Caste Based Apartheid In The Indian Institute Of Technology, Madras, by Mahendra http://oomai.wordpress.com/2006/05/20/caste-based-apartheid-in-the-indian-institute-of-technology-madras/#comment-67 Mahendra Mon, 18 Sep 2006 10:00:23 +0000 https://oomai.wordpress.com/2006/05/20/caste-based-apartheid-in-the-indian-institute-of-technology-madras/#comment-67 The author has exagerated . What is happening now ( caste politics ) is not right and what happened in the past ( caste discrimination) is also not right . Indian politicians current and past ( Prime Ministers , Presidents , Chief maiminters , Finance mainisters etc etc ) are all ass-holes and thats why we as a country are like this The author has exagerated . What is happening now ( caste politics ) is not right and what happened in the past ( caste discrimination) is also not right .

Indian politicians current and past ( Prime Ministers , Presidents , Chief maiminters , Finance mainisters etc etc ) are all ass-holes and thats why we as a country are like this

]]> Comment on Caste Based Apartheid In The Indian Institute Of Technology, Madras, by Arasu http://oomai.wordpress.com/2006/05/20/caste-based-apartheid-in-the-indian-institute-of-technology-madras/#comment-60 Arasu Tue, 15 Aug 2006 20:08:55 +0000 https://oomai.wordpress.com/2006/05/20/caste-based-apartheid-in-the-indian-institute-of-technology-madras/#comment-60 Hi Nimamman Na Keya , If there were no caste based system and the education was given for everyone from the beginning; talking about reservation now is meaning less. But, the education was denied for certain people for more than 2000 years and you guys want to treat them equal to you. Those who appose reservation, imagine, if you were in our position what you will do now. Hi Nimamman Na Keya ,

If there were no caste based system and the education was given for everyone from the beginning; talking about reservation now is meaning less. But, the education was denied for certain people for more than 2000 years and you guys want to treat them equal to you.

Those who appose reservation, imagine, if you were in our position what you will do now.

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